Cytat: savagerhino
> *the glasses OF MINE ??
Nie, Tak sie nie mowi , jest to niepoprawne.
To sie nazywa 'post-genitive' tak jak 'A friend of mine' gdzie czlon przed 'of' ( head) domyslnie musi być zasadniczo nieokreslony ( 'indefinite/an unspecidied number of ' w znaczeniu jeden z moich przyjaciol, mam jednego albo wiecej, a tu jest 'THE glasses ..
Jesli jednak kontekst wymagalby takiej konstrukcji to jedyna mozliwoscia byloby uzycie tutaj demonstative 'these glasses of mine' ale wtedy znaczenie nie bedzie ' to jest jedna z kilku par okularow ktore mam' tylko cos jak 'these glasses are part of my image/gear or whatever
Damn! A double genitive construction must begin with a, this, that, these, those. Was at work, so distracted. Sorry! 'These glasses are mine.' is what I would say.
A double genitive/possessive construction cannot start with the definite article "the" or with the proper noun, hence it'd be incorrect to say:
"the friend of Tom's." The noun with the -s genitive must be both definite and personal, that's why it would be incorrect to say: 'a stereo of a student's".
Some linguists argue that the double genitive is not a true genitive but rather a type of partitive construction (this is what you said a moment ago):
Quote, Grammarians have argued over the origin and nature, but not the validity, of the double genitive with the fervor of hot-stove league fans rehashing a Word Series play, unquote, and one more:
Quote, To say you're a friend of Greg's means that Greg looks upon you as a friend. To say you're a friend of Greg means that you look upon Greg as a friend. A subtle difference. It seems that the addition of -s to . . . Greg is a way of focusing attention on [this person] as having a more active role in the relationship being expressed. Double possession has given us a way to express quite fine distinctions that we couldn't convey before. The extra marking is not overkill in this case, unquote
ps gotta go to the kitchen to see if lunch is ready!
edytowany przez grudziu: 27 lip 2013